Planners resort to DIY software

2 July 2009 | by Benjamin Levy

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Dissatisfaction with available financial planning software is leading dealer groups to create their own, with some practices now selling their programs to other dealer groups.

HNW Planning principal Robert Cumming started marketing his own internal software, Syncrm, to other dealer groups three weeks ago amid widespread dissatisfaction with the available software.

“[Syncrm] came about over pure frustration with existing software not being able to cope with complex client situations, [the problem of speed and] not being able to keep enough information,” he said.

Cumming told Money Management the Coin and Xplan applications were so complex he became entirely dependent on trained staff to use the programs, and when they left he was unable to even start them. It is a common problem in the industry, he said.

Martin Myers, chief financial officer at Compound Capital, said they constructed their own software because the available programs could not handle complex portfolio transactions and the after-sales support was “pretty poor”.

“If I had an organisation [like] that I’d be hanging my head in shame,” he said.

Compound is still looking for a software system that offers value for money and provides assistance with documentation and products, Myers said.

Fiducian recently announced it is planning to launch its own flexible, easy-to-customise software next month.

“We were sold Visiplan some time back when we started, but it seemed too complex and expensive, [so] we just continued with our own development,” Fiducian managing director Indy Singh said.

Jenny Powell, director of Powell Capel Securities, said Coin took up so much computing power it could only be used for larger dealer groups, and when she switched to Xplan she found the after-sales support “totally frustrating”.

Powell said the group subsequently created its own templates rather than waiting three months for Xplan to design them and did not use Xplan’s table of assets and liabilities.

Andrew Clegg, a financial planner at Hales Douglass, said the company switched to Coin because Xplan did not offer any after-sales support, but Coin’s commissions reporting system left a lot to be desired. As a result, Hales Douglass had to use Coin’s separate system, Olicc Technologies, to support its commissions reporting, he said.

Iress senior business development executive Michael Kinens said they had made improvements to Xplan since they purchased the software, and added everyone was trying to extract as much as they could from software in this current environment.

Coin managing director Darelle Jenkins said it was typical to receive feedback from clients saying the software was either too complex or, conversely, praising it for its ease of use.

Financial planners also had to make sure the version they used fit their job requirements, she added.


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  1. LynB | 4 July, 2009 at 11:12 AM
    Interesting Article. Let's be realistic not one software is going to suit all businesses. As an FP practice that has used IDT, ACT, Goldmine, Visiplan and Xplan we have definitely experienced a few challenges and the support that does or doesn't go with them. After 12 years we have found that XPlan holds up to all of the requirements that a growing practice needs. We have proven that efficiencies have been gained and ultimately money saved. If you use the system correctly and learn to understand what it can do for your business the gain is worth the cost. As for loosing productivity when team leave...that is wrong, if you use it well it totally counteracts this issue. Look outside the square there are other ways to get the most out of your current program. More often that not the user just needs educating, you can't just flick a switch an expect all that is required for such a complex / compliant industry without some human intervention. Grass always appears greener on the other side, speak to other users before you throw away your hard earned money. Be cautious of those that feel they can improve on something that they could not use.
  2. Kenm | 3 July, 2009 at 11:54 AM
    One needs to look beyond mere words when reading criticisms or plaudits for software usage because there is considerable mythology surrounding the use of computing technology. Expecting software to simplify a complex business or to provide 'solutions' is unrealistic. To expect someone to apply technology and to get superb results 'at the press of a button' is unrealistic. To expect computers to lower operating costs immediately on implementation is unrealistic. To get more than 20% value from computing technology for any of the above reasons is very unrealistic. Getting value of computing and information technology requires considerable intellectual effort because processes and work practices should be totally redefined and re-engineered. This requires considerable costs of finances and intellectual capital - but it is worth the effort. Having said that, our company uses Xplan. There is considerable potential to improve our business administration significantly and we are working toward that. It would help if the Xplan 'after sales' support was better.
  3. International Planner | 2 July, 2009 at 05:09 PM
    Technology companies often make systems over complex to the detriment of the user! Users do not have any power to change the big boys!
  4. RK | 2 July, 2009 at 04:27 PM
    The majority of our planners use Coin for their financial planning software. We have found their customer service to be above and beyond the normal software companies. Nothing is perfect but Coin is close to it for their customer service, followup and willingness to work with our dealer group to achieve what we need for our member practices. Its quite alright for someone to go and invent their software but don’t forget they are customizing for their needs and what their particular practice may require which doesn’t necessarily fit all practices. Coin is model that works and suits the majority of Financial Planners in the industry. Will be interesting to see how good these “DIY” softwares really are and how long they stay around. I have been in the industry for 20 years and have seen many of these type of software products come and go (and practices lose not only money but data). Buyer Beware!
  5. Adelaide Planner | 2 July, 2009 at 04:11 PM
    I've used Visiplan, X-Plan and Coin and I've found that these programs mostly do the same thing. The difference is the service and support and I've found Coin's Relationship Management team to be the most supportive for a Boutique practice like mine. I couldn't get any help from X-Plan or Visiplan if I begged for it. With Coin their relationship managers are the ones chasing me up to see if I need help!
  6. Billy | 2 July, 2009 at 03:23 PM
    Wow! Mr Cumming could not even start Xplan or COIN, yet can develop his own software! I hope it has an easy to start feature.
  7. Brisbane Planner | 2 July, 2009 at 11:20 AM
    Ongoing support and training from dealer groups and software providers is disgustingly low. The speed of these programs is also so slow that I think I could cut and paste word and excel documents faster than coin or xplan could run a template. Also the number of errors from the software and the help desk support of getting around the error is another joke.

Tags: coin software | compound capital | Darelle Jenkins | Fiducian | financial planning software | HNW planning | IRESS | Michael Kinens | Olicc Technologies | portfolio transactions | powell capel securities | robert cumming | software problems | syncrm software | Xplan

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